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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  P_Thorne on Sat Apr 09, 2011 11:35 am

I don't want to speak for others, but I suspect Vader22135's enthusiasm and ambitions might be out of line with those of the rest of PennLUG, and I'd like to articulate exactly why. (In the following, assume the pronoun "we" means "PennLUG's dedicated members," which I'm not counting myself among.)

In short: We're AFOLs for the fun, but this idea reduces the hobby to work.

A 56-foot trailer? That's a huge capital investment. Where would we park it? And a huge operating cost -- gas, insurance, tires. Yes, that's what revenue is for, but registering as a business and charging admission is a huge hassle -- as a LUG, our standard practice is to exhibit at an events and let them handle paperwork, leaving us free to focus on building.

Capital investment, operating cost, and time cost -- the trailer needs to be on the road, going places, with staffers. Who has the time for that? At LEGO Kids Fests we get fringe bennies, at Brick* cons we get AFOL socializing, and that's a half-dozen weekends per year. There's none of that if we're essentially forced to run a business.

And a glued version of our display? Gluing is what TLG does, having unlimited bricks and labor; us, we reserve the option to rebuild our models as necessary. And making a duplicate, aside from the parts-expense, has no fun-dividend.

(OTOH, it's possible some of us like the idea of inventing a home business centered on LEGO, but unless they owned the entire display outright, the usual "collaborative display" paradigm seems a poor fit. Speaking for myself, I prefer working for a large company offering a predictable salary, vacation and health benefits.)


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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  Cale on Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:17 pm

lol! rolf

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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  vyronwynter on Sat Apr 09, 2011 9:19 pm

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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  P_Thorne on Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:33 pm

Vader22135 wrote:someday in the future the club is going to need a revenue source other than dues ... to get what we do to more of the public ... I am just looking to see what "we" can do to make our footprint a little bigger

There's an unexamined assumption here: That the club needs to get bigger. Why? Where's the dividend? See separate thread for full analysis.

("Exhibit to the public" is IMHO a sub-goal of "get bigger." At present, by exhibiting we're only promoting "Buy more bricks!" and "Join our club!" TLG certainly doesn't need our help in marketing, growth is proceeding apace, and we don't have any "noble" or external goals. We don't fund a charity; we won't achieve fame outside AFOLdom; it's not a résumé builder; we don't encourage sci-tech-math education by mentoring a FLL team or displaying Mindstorms or even a GBC. Possible exception: The exhibits at the non-LEGO car and train museums.)
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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  Cale on Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:15 am

With all due respect Phil I think you have taken Tony Eule's trailer suggestion a little to seriously.

I thought the idea was pretty funny myself.

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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  P_Thorne on Mon Apr 11, 2011 6:23 pm

Cale wrote:With all due respect Phil I think you have taken Tony Eule's trailer suggestion a little to seriously.

I thought the idea was pretty funny myself.

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This is entirely possible, and I apologize if I overreacted.

In my defense, however, nothing in the phrasing of Vader's initial post ("keep an open mind" and "don't pan it until you see the whole video") indicated it was meant humorously or hypothetically. For that intent to be clear, I suggest phrases like "This is so cool! Too expensive for us, obviously..." or "Some train hobbyists go overboard, don't they?" or "Imagine if TLG paid LUGs to exhibit in this manner..." or "Let's do this! Just kidding."

Vader: Could you try to be more careful and complete with your phrasing, please? Conversations run more smoothly if readers understand your intent and emotional tone, but effective online writing is a skill that takes practice. If you're rushing, don't -- in here, there's no need to, especially if you're starting a new thread. Be like a carpenter -- "Measure twice, cut once." Compose in Notepad, so the SEND button isn't tempting you. Step away from the PC -- the best ideas come to mind when I'm not staring at the screen.
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Re: I have found a trailer for pennlug check it out

Post  Brianb on Sun Apr 17, 2011 3:00 pm

Club Enclosed Trailer update:

Cale, his dad and I went to look at the trailer I found on CraigsList today. We passed, the price was in our range, but it needed a lot of work to get cleaned up. It also hasn't been inspected in about 6 years, so I'm not sure how much additional $ it would have taken to get it to pass inspection - (I know we have Tony E, Joel and myself that could phycically do the repairs) but new tires, brakes etc... it would add up quickly.

We'll keep looking , please do so as well. Brick Magic is approaching very quickly Smile

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Post  Supreme Overlord in Exile on Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:09 pm

Some thoughts on a trailer if it hasn't been thought of already

The best time to look sometimes is when it's raining. It'll tell you real fast if theres a leak. Sunshiney days ask to run a hose over it. Don't forget a spare tire either! Having an integrated ramp makes life sooo much easier. Lastly, with as tempting as it may be, leave the trailer unmarked. Anything that says what may be inside is asking for theft.

You probably already thought of some of this stuff and more, but just wanted to put it out there.

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